They are in the same boat as us with extreme poor propagation .. K back up to 5. Could barely hear them on 17 SSB today and they gave up due to no answers. Some signal on 20 M for a while but it finally faded. On the low bands they say all signals are at the noise level from all continents. They are using a 4 square receiving system on 160 and on 80 M a DHDL system. Transmit on 160 is a Titanex. It is going to be tough going until conditions get better.